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Old 02-04-2024, 05:50 PM
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im writing this as a semi retired swinger that have my own private groups both local and overseas. reading your writings from the POV of the organiser really highlights how pain in the ass it really is.

while i agree with the observations you've laid out, your incel take on it is fucking cringy and is in fact widening the gap between single males vs couples and/or single females. i.e. this is why people don't pick you.

it's a sore loser's take that complains about the weather, the ground, the whatever, whenever he loses a race.

let me explain.

throughout the history of evolution, since organisms developed complex sexual reproduction, it has always been the survival of the strongest. from the tiny male bird dancing in the jungles of Papua New Guinea to humans.

the handsome-est, the fittest, the richest, the most charismatic males takes all.

and there is NO difference in a kink group.
in fact this is only magnified when the ratio of males to females is skewed.

1. let's be honest, we have all seen your picture in the news with your transition glasses and Lee Hsien Loong hairstyle with a body looking like my old NS encik. while some girls might dig that IT guy cybersecurity look, i would bet a vast majority would NOT. Especially girls born 1999 and later.
This is not a personal insult to you. but come on, you've been around. you know exactly what i mean.
and sexual attraction is 90% visual whether you acknowledge it or not.

guys only want to fuck beautiful girls so why is it not the same vice versa?

2. People gain experiences and learn from them. in the early days of undertable and fetlife, a dumpy male can get away with tropes like "experienced & sensual yoni masseur" or "experienced mentor to guide you" blah blah blah.

but come on lah, with the explosion of internet connectivity, people TALK, DISCUSS and LEARN. all the so-called guidance is a masquerade for uglies and cheapos looking for a free fuck. and most of the fucks are way subpar somemore.

you do have literacy skills. i give you that. but that niche alone will never be enough to attract and fuck the top tier of attractive girls.

clearly the weeding out will proceed as usual as it has always been doing so for thousands of years.

i have some advice for young males here. WORK on yourself.
if you're fat, hit the gym and get a six pec. if your hair is ugly, spend some time with a good hair stylist. if you teeth is crooked, get braces and etc. do the best you can to make yourself beautiful. That improved physical attractiveness will do wonders to your own self confidence too. and people will detect that.

if you're still in your prime bracket (22 to 45) work on your career/profession and make as much money as possible.
Money STILL TALKS. you dont have to be Jack Ma or Elon Musk. but you NEED to have a level of financial freedom. you want a sex slave harem, you better be able to bring all the girls out for dinner and drinks.

Last is your charisma/personality/ character. This is very subjective and abstract. But i can tell you what girls or organisers do not like. and that's a fucking incel.

one trend i noticed nowadays is more and more guys are no longer willing to self-improve. to compete. to win the fight. they would rather retreat to the confines of blanket and internet and complain endlessly.

if you cannot compete, just drop out. go HCM. go boten. go bangkok. there's still tons of fun to be had. every bit of it as delicious as locally. in fact some might argue its better. just drop this incel BS dude.
I cant agree more with the work on yourself part and yet everyday I still see fucking fat ass looking for fwb inside there, i mean you might stand a better chance praying for toto, at least it a matter of chance not matter of looks.

Me and my partners always meet nice and hot ppl inside there and yes we straight reject those that always chose KFC over working out. Its not tat hard ya, each day do 50 push up stay away from sugar, you almost there liao.
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im writing this as a semi retired swinger that have my own private groups both local and overseas. reading your writings from the POV of the organiser really highlights how pain in the ass it really is.

while i agree with the observations you've laid out, your incel take on it is fucking cringy and is in fact widening the gap between single males vs couples and/or single females. i.e. this is why people don't pick you.

it's a sore loser's take that complains about the weather, the ground, the whatever, whenever he loses a race.

let me explain.

throughout the history of evolution, since organisms developed complex sexual reproduction, it has always been the survival of the strongest. from the tiny male bird dancing in the jungles of Papua New Guinea to humans.

the handsome-est, the fittest, the richest, the most charismatic males takes all.

and there is NO difference in a kink group.
in fact this is only magnified when the ratio of males to females is skewed.

1. let's be honest, we have all seen your picture in the news with your transition glasses and Lee Hsien Loong hairstyle with a body looking like my old NS encik. while some girls might dig that IT guy cybersecurity look, i would bet a vast majority would NOT. Especially girls born 1999 and later.
This is not a personal insult to you. but come on, you've been around. you know exactly what i mean.
and sexual attraction is 90% visual whether you acknowledge it or not.

guys only want to fuck beautiful girls so why is it not the same vice versa?

2. People gain experiences and learn from them. in the early days of undertable and fetlife, a dumpy male can get away with tropes like "experienced & sensual yoni masseur" or "experienced mentor to guide you" blah blah blah.

but come on lah, with the explosion of internet connectivity, people TALK, DISCUSS and LEARN. all the so-called guidance is a masquerade for uglies and cheapos looking for a free fuck. and most of the fucks are way subpar somemore.

you do have literacy skills. i give you that. but that niche alone will never be enough to attract and fuck the top tier of attractive girls.

clearly the weeding out will proceed as usual as it has always been doing so for thousands of years.

i have some advice for young males here. WORK on yourself.
if you're fat, hit the gym and get a six pec. if your hair is ugly, spend some time with a good hair stylist. if you teeth is crooked, get braces and etc. do the best you can to make yourself beautiful. That improved physical attractiveness will do wonders to your own self confidence too. and people will detect that.

if you're still in your prime bracket (22 to 45) work on your career/profession and make as much money as possible.
Money STILL TALKS. you dont have to be Jack Ma or Elon Musk. but you NEED to have a level of financial freedom. you want a sex slave harem, you better be able to bring all the girls out for dinner and drinks.

Last is your charisma/personality/ character. This is very subjective and abstract. But i can tell you what girls or organisers do not like. and that's a fucking incel.

one trend i noticed nowadays is more and more guys are no longer willing to self-improve. to compete. to win the fight. they would rather retreat to the confines of blanket and internet and complain endlessly.

if you cannot compete, just drop out. go HCM. go boten. go bangkok. there's still tons of fun to be had. every bit of it as delicious as locally. in fact some might argue its better. just drop this incel BS dude.
Lol. "I'm an incel". You know nothing about my life. Three word assumption about me straight away I can ignore everything you said. Got nothing to prove to you, and high chance I'll never have been one of you and your girls' target guys for swinging with anyway which is totally fine because we all have our own tastes.

Wish you all the best and have your fun. I've had enough fun of mine to last two lifetimes.
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Lol. "I'm an incel". You know nothing about my life. Three word assumption about me straight away I can ignore everything you said. Got nothing to prove to you, and high chance I'll never have been one of you and your girls' target guys for swinging with anyway which is totally fine because we all have our own tastes.

Wish you all the best and have your fun. I've had enough fun of mine to last two lifetimes.
Bro work on improving yourself. Youíre clearly smart enough to realize that girls are attracted to desirable men. Youíre not. Lot of incel vibes coming from you. Stay positive and keep improving. Good luck bro!
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I like this hotwife and her dress..

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I like this hotwife and her dress.. OMG! The married ladies really dare to bare..
Haha, yea. Awesome.
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Lol. "I'm an incel". You know nothing about my life. Three word assumption about me straight away I can ignore everything you said. Got nothing to prove to you, and high chance I'll never have been one of you and your girls' target guys for swinging with anyway which is totally fine because we all have our own tastes.

Wish you all the best and have your fun. I've had enough fun of mine to last two lifetimes.
dude. OF COURSE we know you're an incel lah. i don't have to be your childhood bff or therapist to tell. bro @balianlee would know too. because we see guys like you all the time and its a fucking pain in the ass to filter and reject. mainly because most of the time only the incels cannot take rejection well and you demand we choose you or have a proper detailed reasons. like we're obliged to hold your hand and tell you its not your fault. LOL

all that and also your unhealthy-ly large collection of porn, IT technician-look and that absolutely incel-fuelled post is some pretty telling signs lah.

guys that will resolutely hound the girls and organiser and when you're rejected you lament the heaven, the earth and even the water. the self entitlement to think girls should drop to their knees and suck your dick on sight just because you're there. like who are you bro?? hahahaha

and honestly how many girls would like to fuck an out of shape dungeon&dragons player who can probably recite the lord of the rings backwards?

the self-denial is off the charts ludicrous lah.

im not saying you dont have your market leh. but you need to stick to your lane. and when things dont work out (clearly it didn't or you wouldn't need to write that post in the first place), you need to look into a mirror and self reflect. and perhaps take up some sincere advice by other people. dont live in self denial dude.

your prowess behind words and that self-styled martyrdom against pappies makes you think that you're some suave apex predator of a man. the righteous defender of the oppressed. but too bad the sex/swing/date/kink game is a highly visual game what. once meet in real life or pictures, the illusion is shattered immediately LOL

we dont have anything to prove to each other. indeed we dont even know each other. hence i am really not trying to insult your being. but facts are facts bro. people in general just want to play with beautiful people. failing that you better get your wallet ready.

or else better start your self-improvement program lah. why waste time complaining?

again be honest to yourself. would you rather fuck Yi Da Li from mediacorp or Jessica Alba if the chance was presented to you? so if you can reject YDL, what makes you think Jessica Alba cannot reject you??

as my ah beng cai png uncle from kopitiam would exclaim: "MAI LAI LAH!"
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I cant agree more with the work on yourself part and yet everyday I still see fucking fat ass looking for fwb inside there, i mean you might stand a better chance praying for toto, at least it a matter of chance not matter of looks.

Me and my partners always meet nice and hot ppl inside there and yes we straight reject those that always chose KFC over working out. Its not tat hard ya, each day do 50 push up stay away from sugar, you almost there liao.
indeed bro. but of course certain people would rather cry than self reflect and self improve.

some dude even zapped me. LOL some times all this type of shit makes me wonder if giving chances to newbies is even worth it. you give genuine FRs, genuine double checkable advice also got people dulan. forums are a social experiment LOL
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dude. OF COURSE we know you're an incel lah. i don't have to be your childhood bff or therapist to tell. bro @balianlee would know too. because we see guys like you all the time and its a fucking pain in the ass to filter and reject. mainly because most of the time only the incels cannot take rejection well and you demand we choose you or have a proper detailed reasons. like we're obliged to hold your hand and tell you its not your fault. LOL

all that and also your unhealthy-ly large collection of porn, IT technician-look and that absolutely incel-fuelled post is some pretty telling signs lah.

guys that will resolutely hound the girls and organiser and when you're rejected you lament the heaven, the earth and even the water. the self entitlement to think girls should drop to their knees and suck your dick on sight just because you're there. like who are you bro?? hahahaha

and honestly how many girls would like to fuck an out of shape dungeon&dragons player who can probably recite the lord of the rings backwards?

the self-denial is off the charts ludicrous lah.

im not saying you dont have your market leh. but you need to stick to your lane. and when things dont work out (clearly it didn't or you wouldn't need to write that post in the first place), you need to look into a mirror and self reflect. and perhaps take up some sincere advice by other people. dont live in self denial dude.

your prowess behind words and that self-styled martyrdom against pappies makes you think that you're some suave apex predator of a man. the righteous defender of the oppressed. but too bad the sex/swing/date/kink game is a highly visual game what. once meet in real life or pictures, the illusion is shattered immediately LOL

we dont have anything to prove to each other. indeed we dont even know each other. hence i am really not trying to insult your being. but facts are facts bro. people in general just want to play with beautiful people. failing that you better get your wallet ready.

or else better start your self-improvement program lah. why waste time complaining?

again be honest to yourself. would you rather fuck Yi Da Li from mediacorp or Jessica Alba if the chance was presented to you? so if you can reject YDL, what makes you think Jessica Alba cannot reject you??

as my ah beng cai png uncle from kopitiam would exclaim: "MAI LAI LAH!"
Oh my you're so FURIOUS about someone you described as an "incel" giving his opinion! I wonder why you're so INVESTED in my opinion I can give freely as what passes for my FREEDOM OF SPEECH on a forum that the SG authorities cannot control for over 20 years, if you disagree with not just the opinion but the very person making it so much! *laughs*

Not in first batch of USC founder generation of swingers, don't talk so much. Claim you're semi retired already, don't talk so much.

P.S. showed your post to my female friend in SG who's still in the NSA/solo hookup scene. She flat out said "wonder how 'good looking' he is".
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Oh my you're so FURIOUS about someone you described as an "incel" giving his opinion! I wonder why you're so INVESTED in my opinion I can give freely as what passes for my FREEDOM OF SPEECH on a forum that the SG authorities cannot control for over 20 years, if you disagree with not just the opinion but the very person making it so much! *laughs*

Not in first batch of USC founder generation of swingers, don't talk so much. Claim you're semi retired already, don't talk so much.

P.S. showed your post to my female friend in SG who's still in the NSA/solo hookup scene. She flat out said "wonder how 'good looking' he is".
Relax lah bro itís not that serious. Donít know why youíre reacting this way to someone just sharing honest and unbiased feedback. Like that also you want to get angry? Why?
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Oh my you're so FURIOUS about someone you described as an "incel" giving his opinion! I wonder why you're so INVESTED in my opinion I can give freely as what passes for my FREEDOM OF SPEECH on a forum that the SG authorities cannot control for over 20 years, if you disagree with not just the opinion but the very person making it so much! *laughs*

Not in first batch of USC founder generation of swingers, don't talk so much. Claim you're semi retired already, don't talk so much.

P.S. showed your post to my female friend in SG who's still in the NSA/solo hookup scene. She flat out said "wonder how 'good looking' he is".
for someone so much against the PAP for being oppressive in their witch hunt for people who talks and for freedom of speech, you certainly tried very hard to oppress my freedom of speech.

you perpetrate all the toxicity (that you described) that will inevitably come to any anon online forums.

the level of irony and hypocrisy here. no wonder you cant survive in singapore LOL

my words are stamped out here. folks who are successful in playing the scenes or in the scene will know them to be true. in fact i am very sure you know it yourself too.

yea, your "female friend". is it Nami from One Piece? or is it Hermione from Harry Potter this time?

so its not just irony and hypocrisy but idiocracy as well.

im done talking to you.
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Relax lah bro itís not that serious. Donít know why youíre reacting this way to someone just sharing honest and unbiased feedback. Like that also you want to get angry? Why?
i think hes so angry because i touched a raw nerve just by telling the truth LOL and people dont like truths they like having their narrative repeated. Which is a perfect mirror in why he hates the government so much LOL because pap oppressed his freedom to think and to speak. so the level of irony here just reached Mars

but my point is not to antagonise despite all it seems. my point is whoever (newbies or single males) reading this can take some pointers and be better.

its not entirely selfless. im not so kind samaritan. but i really believe that by cooperating together we can all collectively have more fun. (maybe also skip more landmines)

we are all here to fuck, not to argue. but i needed people to see from the POV of an organiser.

afterall the thread is "Undertable worth it?"
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i think hes so angry because i touched a raw nerve just by telling the truth LOL and people dont like truths they like having their narrative repeated. Which is a perfect mirror in why he hates the government so much LOL because pap oppressed his freedom to think and to speak. so the level of irony here just reached Mars

but my point is not to antagonise despite all it seems. my point is whoever (newbies or single males) reading this can take some pointers and be better.

its not entirely selfless. im not so kind samaritan. but i really believe that by cooperating together we can all collectively have more fun. (maybe also skip more landmines)

we are all here to fuck, not to argue. but i needed people to see from the POV of an organiser.

afterall the thread is "Undertable worth it?"
Yah lor, very strange reaction by him. I mean this is a sex forum and heís so sensitive like cock like that. What sia
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for someone so much against the PAP for being oppressive in their witch hunt for people who talks and for freedom of speech, you certainly tried very hard to oppress my freedom of speech.

you perpetrate all the toxicity (that you described) that will inevitably come to any anon online forums.

the level of irony and hypocrisy here. no wonder you cant survive in singapore LOL

my words are stamped out here. folks who are successful in playing the scenes or in the scene will know them to be true. in fact i am very sure you know it yourself too.

yea, your "female friend". is it Nami from One Piece? or is it Hermione from Harry Potter this time?

so its not just irony and hypocrisy but idiocracy as well.

im done talking to you.
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Yah lor, very strange reaction by him. I mean this is a sex forum and heís so sensitive like cock like that. What sia
Coming from the one who literally either paid money to buy membership in this forum to get out of negative points twice in a row, or has an army of bot accounts to re-up to 100+ points, or went to beg others to up him for points in private... Take a mirror look at yourself before talking about others.
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