Hate for Indian guys?

[theprataman]

Not sure if this thread has been here before..couldn't find any in the search. I'm sorry if i missed it and made another thread of the same name.

Anyways back to the topic, why the hate? Recently I went to a club with my friends and while dancing I saw a really pretty Chinese girl. So after a bit of coaxing from my friends I went up to say hi. The moment I said hi she walked away, and I distinctly heard the words 'fucking Indians'. I was just plain old shocked.

I have also seen this behaviour in my school during orientation camps. Mind you most of my friends are Chinese due to the fact I was the only Indian guy in my class in sec sch. And I'm quite sure I don't have the 'Indian smell' cause I can actually smell it on others and can't stand it myself.

And even here alot of FLs don't specifically take Indian men. Why is this? Why are local Indians being lumped in with them FTs?

Please don't be an ass when you answer. If you have nothing constructive to say, just leave.

[Jumpstack]

Sorry..its the reality of life dude..as much as we wanna think racial discrimination doesnt exists in our very multi-cultural society it IN FACT DOES!!..my solution to you is to keep to ur, own race if u dont wanna face this Stupid Racists...

[I.m.Jim]

Originally Posted by theprataman

And even here alot of FLs don't specifically take Indian men. Why is this? Why are local Indians being lumped in with them FTs?

Please don't be an ass when you answer. If you have nothing constructive to say, just leave.

Although racism is not encouraged. Its an inevitable choice of preference to many from marriage to friends to even sexual partners whether its paid or consensual.

I agree that sometimes its sad to experience this but its everywhere and its not limited to only Singapore and to Indians! Just look at Chinese in Caucasian dominated countries.

[abugga]

For the most part, that might be true.

But eh guys here's a food for thought, why is it that sometimes men in general, can be racist, say, a caucasian, hates chinese men, but when it comes to chinese women, it's a totally different story

My point is: don't bother about what others are thinking, they are just living in their own world of illusions..

my humble thoughts.

[Criminalz]

Shitty attitude. These people have low self esteem.

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[spidey7]

Prataman like some bro say face the reality. FLs dun take Indians cos dey cant speak mandarin. Too bad. Dis is not racism.

[<<totally>>]

Originally Posted by theprataman

Anyways back to the topic, why the hate? Recently I went to a club with my friends and while dancing I saw a really pretty Chinese girl. So after a bit of coaxing from my friends I went up to say hi. The moment I said hi she walked away, and I distinctly heard the words 'fucking Indians'. I was just plain old shocked.

I am answering in response to a question asked. So do not be offended as I mean no harm to point in any direction. The only highly possible reason that I can think of to explain for the girl's reaction is stereotyping. I choose to believed that there isn't any so called hated but one's so called arrogance coupled with her fixed mind set.

What is stereotype? It is a generalization and fixed set of one's thinking and belief about with respect to a group of people or race.

For example: A guy will tattoos will be regarded as a secret society member even though tattoos are promoted as body art in today's time.

Merit of stereotyping helps one to act in an instance to situations due to one's past experience. Because of that, one will have a much simpler social circle due to instance categorize of people when making new friends.

A big advantage is that it makes ones unable to separate between individual from the group due to the typical mindset "that all are the same".

Most of the time, stereotyping often refers to the negative impressions rather than the positive ones. For an instance, when we hear that this person is a nurse, we will assume that she must be caring and kind. In the event of TS's post, I see it as a form of stereotyping commonly known as a racial stereotype.

Studies have been carried out and concluded that most stereotypes are of negative impact and hardly any participating students had difficulty in responding to the questionnaire. The most famous study of racial stereotyping was published by Katz and Braly in 1933 when they reported the results of a questionnaire completed by students at Princeton University in the USA.

Most students who took the test belonged to white Americans. The compiled data showed ethnic groups such as Jews are regarded as shrewd and mercenary, Japanese as shrewd and sly, Negroes as lazy and happy-go-lucky and Americans as industrious and intelligent.

It is not surprising to see that the racial stereotypes always seem to favor the race of the holder and looks down on the other races. Every ethnic group has racial stereotypes of other groups in their own perspective. Some psychologists argue that it is a “natural” aspect of human behavior so as to benefit by to be in that group. Able to identify with one’s own ethnic group is seen as a form of protection and most of times one do feel safe when with the group. One will felt the success or victory feeling by the groups they are in even if they were not the ones that made the feat.

Many see it is merely a way of justifying racist attitudes and behaviors as no evidence can be gathered.

Using the above case study, I can say racial stereotyping do exist within our society. Most of times, such remarks are not made so openly in the public as it might created some uproar and brings danger to the person who passed that remark. Luckily in Singapore, racial harmony has been educated to the citizens and hence only a handful still do have that type of undesirable thoughts.

No one wished to be associated with the negative traits but some things are tough for one to be disassociate away from it as it has been passed down from generations to generations. Those affected may wish to accept it as a passing remark and not taking into the heart for they have a bigger heart to endured the passer's naive way of thoughts.

Hope TS do feel better after reading my post.

[owl888]

TS if its juz 1 out of many gals that behave this way then I think its juz one off case lah........

[Secret7]

Brother, I have many Indian friends, so not say Singaporeans are racists.

Some of my best friends are Indian, and I trust them, do business with them.

Last time I also chase after Indian girl. She is very sweet, smile a lot, easy to chit chat. I also fall in love with her. But she reject me, maybe because I am not English ed, and cheena ah Beng type.

So, it's because we are different needs but we are still friends and she is married now to Indian. So not because I am Chinese she don't want me. I accept that and now happy for her.

[Babyrexx]

Hi Bro, I share the thoughts of most Samsters here. Like them, I grew up in the company of Multi Racial community. To me, it's not the Colour of the skin we wear but rather the respect we had for each other. Being said, at times.. There might be a Few black sheep that brings us this Racial sense of Disgust. But I strongly believe that Most Singaporeans are living very well with the presence of other Races. Sometimes when U run into some of those disgusting Racists. Dun bother about them. Cause they meant nothing to You nor your Life. So just treat it as tripping over stones in your path and move on. The road ahead will only better once you move past it. Cheerio!

[littlepok]

well, if they are not prepared to date an indian, just accept it. i have not tried hitting on indian gals but guess they probably like bollywood shaking indian guys rather then chinese. I am fine with that, can call that racist, color discrimination. It is a matter of choice.

don't be like American blacks ok? as long as it does not go their way, they attribute it to discrimination. u think all KKK here meh?

the gal can scold fucking indians, fucking guy, fucking chinese fuck this fuck that.

that is her freedom of speech. don't tell me u never said fucking malay, fucking chinese before in your life, within your circle of friends. instead of calling it racial harmony, might as well call it racial tolerance.

the only minus point is indians are the minority here hence for FL and FB, u got a smaller circle than hoped. Nonetheless, I am sure the indians, pinoy or thai would still welcome u with open arms.

the plus point? Fewer people fighting for your own kind with u. be glad about that. the chinese must fight with ang moh for SPG, not the best battle to have u know? disadvantaged by length liao

[theprataman]

Bros is not I saying anyone racist or what. Is just why is it that we are treated so? Just a simple hi and I get this kind of reaction is quit sad. And it's not one off case either. But really thanks for your insight guys! And as for me going for Indian girls, it's impossible for me at this stage. I have tried dating them before and failed miserably because I cannot click with any of them. Hope some day can meet a girl who wouldn't mind the colour of my skin. Once again thanks guys!

[Gixer]

Dude, this is a case of the Indian FTs causing problems for the locals. Personally, I don't see color, but I can't stand the foreign indians or banglas. Not all are bad, but most I have met are assholes. Maybe its a cultural difference or whatever. Singaporean Indians, served NS, I don't see any problems. Foreigners, different story.

The girl may have had a bad experience with the foreign indians and thought you were 1 of them. I'm sure it happens in India too with the local born Chinese there.

Don't take it so hard, freedom means choice, choice means what a girl wants may not be the same as what you want, and you should respect that.

[Rasta Marley]

Originally Posted by Gixer

Dude, this is a case of the Indian FTs causing problems for the locals

I absolutely agree with your viewpoint; the situation has certainly been made worse by the large numbers of Indian Employment pass holders....who actually claim they are expats; I once had to shut someone up when he claimed he was an expat but when I asked him if his housing was paid for, his car was provided, his kid's education paid for, His answer was no and I directly told him that he was here on local terms and that he better stop proclaiming he is an expat when he is merely just an EP Holder.

It is also a well established fact that quite a few of these guys behave like as if they are God's gift to Singapore, and frankly, that had had it coming for the treatment some of them have been receiving from the locals.

These guys and their wives are the cause of the problem the local Indians face, as some locals to stereotype them, which is unfortunate. I have quite a number of Indian friends who have actually married Chinese girls and they live happily together. So I agree with bro Gixer on this:-)

[DegenerationX]

I think most of the times, only gals will re-act this way. The reason I see it is these gals lack time spent with Indian guys. Hence, the sterotype. Look around, gals will only tend to hang round people of their own race only. Guys usually have no such problems as we have been to NS and we lived with our comrades of different races. hence, guys are more ready to accept other race frds as compared to gals.