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Old 07-03-2015, 01:42 PM
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Re: Caught by AV

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dear TS, 1st and foremost, the FL that u patronized was probably nested in a private residence ie: service apartment, condo, hostel, landed property etc. so, they need to harvest enough evidence that there are illegal activities ongoing in a premise, before they can file for search warrant, cater the right amount of manpower, and/or have the presence of a high ranking officer (who's virtually search warrant on foot) to carry out their task.

your cooperation with the boys in blue, doesn't guarantee u're off the hook. they can request your presence as witness, or if the case is big enough & necessary, subpena you to court as witness.

but don't be too quick to celebrate, everything has a cause & effect. if there's no demand, there's no need for supply. technically, they can assrim you properly by charging you with aiding & abetting, bcos u willfully supported the activity by patronizing.

so always play safe and be tactical.

if the FL gives u non tactical directions such as stand in the middle of an open place so she can spot u, or, make u wait in front of the gate for prolonged period... she's making u visible to everyone.

sg is a safe country, it's so damn safe bcos u don't know who's the surveillance. it could be the idling taxi or lorry or van nearby, it could be the buff hunk with earphones jogging past, it could be the overweight uncle reading newspaper under broad daylight, or the middle aged bloke chain smoking at fixated spot (bear in mind, we're multi racial society, so the potential can be anyone of any color).

perhaps many have found chemistry with a few selected FLs, but be reminded if u're spotted, they'll just be watching your movements, frequency of visits, and duration of visit each time.

it's not worth risking everything to visit a hot FL that's likely gonna garner high patronage. the more ppl going in & out of a residence, is naturally flagging for attention (c'mon, CNY is over, how many visitors can there be on a normal day?). even if there's no surveillance, the neighbors would surely blow whistle at some point.

the current operation style of all OKTs have become so predictable, it's becoming effortless for the boys in blue to carry out their tasks.

it's already so obvious that one stable after another have since been clamped down. yet, the remaining stables r repeating the same system and taking a queue number for the boys in blue to come knocking.

and by the way, based on their pricing scheme, there's no tangible benefit of patronizing FLs. for the same price, just visit a legal house and leave all the worries behind.
Thanks bro for the feedback.. Either real police or not.. Its still troublesome and really suay to kenna.. Kenna fraud by fake police also sian.. Kenna called back by real police for whatever reasons also sian.. Sigh.. 犯太岁..
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Old 07-03-2015, 02:29 PM
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Re: Caught by AV

Yeah, so in what case would the IO not summon the people as witness? Do they only submit witnesses if the OKT wants to dispute?
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Re: Caught by AV

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if she's employee of the establishment, she has no reason to go with anyone to hotel. cos its quite obvious she's prostituting. though prostituting oneself isn't really criminal, but, investigations can cause quite a deal of emotional highs & lows.

if she's not employee of the establishment, legit age & consenting without transaction. depending on the mood of the officers, she may or may not be issued "go home" letter with immediate effect.
bro thanks for the reply. but this ktv gal is obviously working in ktv under social visit pass for 30 days. this means illegal. eveń if caught at hotel and upon knowing she works in ktv illegally, she will be repatriated. am i right?
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It is really scary patronizing the FL now given the risk as elaborated by samster, Ah Phah.

Considering the ever increasing damage that one has to foot in engaging FL, the many reported incidences of bad and hurried services by the FLs. and more importantly the risk of being caught with your pants down by AV, it is really not worth the while to patronize FL in the current situation.

As suggested by many brothers in this forum, better to play safe to visit the legal houses.
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Old 07-03-2015, 04:52 PM
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Re: Caught by AV

If im not wrong, there should at least be a female undercover as well following them.
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Re: Caught by AV

Might be just some Tom dick Harry sent be people from legal house to intimidate bros to engage FL..
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If im not wrong, there should at least be a female undercover as well following them.
There were only 2 men.. 1 Chinese 1 Malay..
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If im not wrong, there should at least be a female undercover as well following them.
Female officers are needed only when they decided to raid the place and make arrests of female subjects...........
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Couple of days ago an online syndicate was busted by the AV..... anyone know which stable was that?
Bro,Randomly surfing $$$$$boy.org the other day, seems like some of the Vietnamese stables' websites were down. You might want to check.
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Yeah, so in what case would the IO not summon the people as witness? Do they only submit witnesses if the OKT wants to dispute?
doesn't matter if defendant wanna claim trial or not, DPD is entitled to bring prosecution witness to the stand. if u refuse, they can request court to issue subpena.

once u're in the picture, very hard to get out of the picture.
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bro thanks for the reply. but this ktv gal is obviously working in ktv under social visit pass for 30 days. this means illegal. eveń if caught at hotel and upon knowing she works in ktv illegally, she will be repatriated. am i right?
social visitors r not employed by anyone. technically, 2 consenting adults going for a quickie or 1 night stand isn't exactly unlawful. but the proceedings can still be very complicated & distressing.
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It is really scary patronizing the FL now given the risk as elaborated by samster, Ah Phah.

Considering the ever increasing damage that one has to foot in engaging FL, the many reported incidences of bad and hurried services by the FLs. and more importantly the risk of being caught with your pants down by AV, it is really not worth the while to patronize FL in the current situation.

As suggested by many brothers in this forum, better to play safe to visit the legal houses.
once upon a time, it was very economical to visit FL instead of WL. but based on current published FL rates, it doesn't make any sense to even try. maybe once in a blue moon, there'll be some that offer less than $100 per hour, but they're considered the "masters category", or put it bluntly "over the hill".

it's also noticeable that many insane enough to price themselves $120-150 an hour. if they really consider themselves to be models, they should just stick with modelling. who knows, maybe some rich tycoon would offer them thousands for a pop.
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Re: Caught by AV

If they are real police, they would not ask you to go back ally. They have the right and talk to you infront in broad daylight.


Police have their warrant cards. See the singa logo... should be in hologram. Like some other brothers say, if in doubt, ask for their particulars as well. There are no rules saying you cannot ask for their particulars and check. See their reaction. If they do let you do so, they are likely to be real ones. Then cooperate with them. There is nothing wrong finding FL.
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Go report police lah, they will investigate for you
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If they are real police, they would not ask you to go back ally. They have the right and talk to you infront in broad daylight.


Police have their warrant cards. See the singa logo... should be in hologram. Like some other brothers say, if in doubt, ask for their particulars as well. There are no rules saying you cannot ask for their particulars and check. See their reaction. If they do let you do so, they are likely to be real ones. Then cooperate with them. There is nothing wrong finding FL.
Bro thanks for your feedback. I thought of all these after the incident. Was just kinda in a state of shock when this happened so I didn't do all that at that point of time.. So far so good.. nothing yet.. hope there's nothing to follow up~
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