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Old 26-10-2014, 02:14 AM
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Law on prostitution

I'm not a newbie and have been chionging for a while more (more recently switched to massages), but what is the law regarding those MLs who operate in housing estates?

So if you get caught in the act, providing the chick isn't <18, they just let you go while sending the chick back to wherever?
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Old 26-10-2014, 02:20 AM
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Re: Law on prostitution

Law can be found here: http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/searc...Ainforce;rec=0

Relevant section here:

Offences relating to prostitution
140.—(1) Any person who —
(a)
sells, lets for hire or otherwise disposes of or buys or hires or otherwise obtains possession of any woman or girl with intent that she shall be employed or used for the purpose of prostitution either within or without Singapore, or knowing or having reason to believe that she will be so employed or used;
(b)
procures any woman or girl to have either within or without Singapore carnal connection except by way of marriage with any male person or for the purpose of prostitution either within or without Singapore;
(c)
by threats or intimidation procures any woman or girl to have carnal connection except by way of marriage with any male person either within or without Singapore;
(d)
brings into Singapore, receives or harbours any woman or girl knowing or having reason to believe that she has been procured for the purpose of having carnal connection except by way of marriage with any male person or for the purpose of prostitution either within or without Singapore and with intent to aid such purpose;
(e)
knowing or having reason to believe that any woman or girl has been procured by threats or intimidation for the purpose of having carnal connection except by way of marriage with any male person, either within or without Singapore, receives or harbours her with intent to aid such purpose;
(f)
knowing or having reason to believe that any woman or girl has been brought into Singapore in breach of section 142 or has been sold or purchased in breach of paragraph (a) receives or harbours her with intent that she may be employed or used for the purpose of prostitution either within or without Singapore;
(g)
detains any woman or girl against her will on any premises with the intention that she shall have carnal connection except by way of marriage with any male person, or detains any woman or girl against her will in a brothel;
(h)
detains any woman or girl in any place against her will with intent that she may be employed or used for the purpose of prostitution or for any unlawful or immoral purpose;
(i)
has carnal connection with any girl below the age of 16 years except by way of marriage; or
(j)
attempts to do any act in contravention of this section,
shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years and shall also be liable to a fine not exceeding $10,000.
[26/80]
(2) Any male person who is convicted of a second or subsequent offence under subsection (1)(a), (b), (c), (d), (e) or (f) shall, in addition to any term of imprisonment awarded in respect of such offence, be liable to caning.
[26/80]
(3) For the purposes of this section, it shall be presumed until the contrary is proved that —
(a)
a person who takes or causes to be taken into a brothel any woman or girl has disposed of her with the intent or knowledge mentioned in subsection (1)(a);
(b)
a person who receives any woman or girl into a brothel has obtained possession of her with the intent or knowledge mentioned in subsection (1)(a);
(c)
a person has detained a woman or girl in any brothel or place against her will if, with intent to compel or induce her to remain therein, that person —
(i)
withholds from that woman or girl any wearing apparel or any other property belonging to her or any wearing apparel commonly or last used by her;
(ii)
where wearing apparel or any other property has been lent or hired out or supplied to that woman or girl, threatens her with legal proceedings if she takes away such wearing apparel or property; or
(iii)
threatens that woman or girl with legal proceedings for the recovery of any debt or alleged debt or uses any other threat whatsoever.
(4) Subject to subsection (5) and notwithstanding anything in section 79 of the Penal Code (Cap. 224), a reasonable mistake as to the age of a girl shall not be a defence to a charge of an offence under subsection (1)(i).
[51/2007]
(5) In the case of a man who at the time of the alleged offence was below the age of 21 years, the presence of a reasonable mistaken belief that the girl was of or above the age of 16 years shall be a valid defence to a charge of an offence under subsection (1)(i), provided that at the time of the offence, he has not previously been charged in court for an offence under subsection (1)(i), or section 376A, 376B, 376C or 376E of the Penal Code, or section 7 of the Children and Young Persons Act (Cap. 38).
[51/2007]

In summary, Pimping is illegal....but Prostitution if you have the correct permits is okay (Lao Jiao Bros who are more knowledgable please correct me if me wrong)
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Old 26-10-2014, 02:24 AM
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Re: Law on prostitution

I just realize...the law only pertains to WOMEN....what if its a duck house like the OKT pimps Gay escorts??? Wouldn't it be legal then? kekekeke
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Re: Law on prostitution

Section 140 subsection(1a) is only in regards to the pimps but not the end-users(us) though.

Aka if you are an OKT, you'll get fucked if you're caught. But then again, that's common knowledge.

But what happens to us, the customers, when we are found in bed with a ML or a FL when a raid happens?
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Old 26-10-2014, 06:12 AM
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Re: Law on prostitution

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Re: Law on prostitution

There is nothing wrong in bonking with an ML or FL. Just make sure that she is not underage.
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Old 28-10-2014, 02:52 PM
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Re: Law on prostitution

This is a FAQ and has been discussed many times. Please do a search.

In summary, prostitution is not a crime in SG. The hookers and customers are NOT committing an offence as long as :

1. The hooker is not caught while soliciting. Soliciting is a crime, but not the actual sex. This is why street hookers run when they see police coming, because they are soliciting for customers.

2. The hooker is not underage.

Being a pimp is, however, illegal, so the pimp will face prosecution.

Foreign hookers are usually caught and charged under the immigration laws and deported. Many are here on social visit or student pass, and are not supposed to be working at all.

Lastly, as a customer, you will be let off but may be required to give statements to the police. This could be potentially disastrous if the customer is married and his wife finds out about it. Other than that, there's no trouble. When giving statements to the police, be truthful, or you could be charged with giving false statements, which is a serious offence.


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I'm not a newbie and have been chionging for a while more (more recently switched to massages), but what is the law regarding those MLs who operate in housing estates?

So if you get caught in the act, providing the chick isn't <18, they just let you go while sending the chick back to wherever?
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Old 28-10-2014, 04:07 PM
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Re: Law on prostitution

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I'm not a newbie and have been chionging for a while more (more recently switched to massages), but what is the law regarding those MLs who operate in housing estates?

So if you get caught in the act, providing the chick isn't <18, they just let you go while sending the chick back to wherever?
The only person in trouble probably the pros and the houseowner, for letting his house become place of vice. Other than that, no law against engaging pros as long as not underage.
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Re: Law on prostitution

Hi All,

Allow me to share my humble view:

1) Prostitutes:
a) Have licensed = Legal.
b) No licensed = Illegal

2) Looking for Prostitutes:
a) Legal prostitutes = No offence committed.
b) Illegal prostitutes = An offence ( This is my personal view and I might be wrong )
It is because what is the difference between an employer who employs an illegal worker different from us engaging illegal prostitutes? BOTH the illegal individuals, ie workers & FLs are providing a service that employer and us engaged them for. Why then the employer will be charged wherelse we will not be charged? If based on the same rationale of analysis, we will also be charged.

In the eyes of the law, we need to established whether; 1) An offence had been committed ? & 2} If so, what are the mitigating factors ? & then 3) Penalty, fines or sentencing then will be awarded.

In conclusion,
Law is based on reasonable doubts and also ask yourself: What would a reasonable person do, behave, act under such circumstance.

Hope that I never bored all of you. If I do, my apology.
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Re: Law on prostitution

There is no such thing as an illegal prostitute because prostitution is legal.

A good example is Natsuki. She operates a one woman show. She doesn't need a license because she's independent and not working out of a brothel. She does not solicit in public places. She takes bookings by phone. There is no middleman. She provides a service and the client pays. Deal done and dusted.

She has been around for many years. The Anti Vice could easily have busted her if she was committing an offense but she isn't so they leave her alone.

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Hi All,

Allow me to share my humble view:

1) Prostitutes:
a) Have licensed = Legal.
b) No licensed = Illegal

2) Looking for Prostitutes:
a) Legal prostitutes = No offence committed.
b) Illegal prostitutes = An offence ( This is my personal view and I might be wrong )
It is because what is the difference between an employer who employs an illegal worker different from us engaging illegal prostitutes? BOTH the illegal individuals, ie workers & FLs are providing a service that employer and us engaged them for. Why then the employer will be charged wherelse we will not be charged? If based on the same rationale of analysis, we will also be charged.

In the eyes of the law, we need to established whether; 1) An offence had been committed ? & 2} If so, what are the mitigating factors ? & then 3) Penalty, fines or sentencing then will be awarded.

In conclusion,
Law is based on reasonable doubts and also ask yourself: What would a reasonable person do, behave, act under such circumstance.

Hope that I never bored all of you. If I do, my apology.
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Re: Law on prostitution

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Hi All,

Allow me to share my humble view:

1) Prostitutes:
a) Have licensed = Legal.
b) No licensed = Illegal

2) Looking for Prostitutes:
a) Legal prostitutes = No offence committed.
b) Illegal prostitutes = An offence ( This is my personal view and I might be wrong )
It is because what is the difference between an employer who employs an illegal worker different from us engaging illegal prostitutes? BOTH the illegal individuals, ie workers & FLs are providing a service that employer and us engaged them for. Why then the employer will be charged wherelse we will not be charged? If based on the same rationale of analysis, we will also be charged.

In the eyes of the law, we need to established whether; 1) An offence had been committed ? & 2} If so, what are the mitigating factors ? & then 3) Penalty, fines or sentencing then will be awarded.

In conclusion,
Law is based on reasonable doubts and also ask yourself: What would a reasonable person do, behave, act under such circumstance.

Hope that I never bored all of you. If I do, my apology.
Hullo you understand the law or not? Its already stated prostitution is not illegal, you just can't solicit for business. So got license no license pros is still the same, no offence.

Its only an offense when you start to pimp for business for pros...

All those fl caught on the street, you think they are charged for prostitution, you can check none of them are, they are only charged for violating their social visit permit which does not allowed them to work for money while they are here.
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Is just me. Assume a FL got arrested send to DSC for screening. She is down with disease. Will AV charge her in court?

Mine feelings it does because we are looking at dangerous behavior, this may be subject to a jail term. And we had overlook medical social workers. They will come into the picture and, this falls into special case files. Only court and AV is accessible to it.
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Moving on i remember there were TVB serials on AV. Till now our home team has not release this group of special forces. We had CID Anti gambling, even ICA but no AV.

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