WLs periodic health checks

[chingkuo]

Originally Posted by KCisBad

Yo bro,, haha
yup !

I am..
I studied alll this stupid STDs and sex and pure biology last time.

Got A-. hehe
BUT STILL A!

Oh and my bro, real bro, study psychology, so i read his uni book too.
So it teaches alot on on brain and all that. They touched on sex too. so ya, im quite well versed in this area..

haha I studied thos bio before, but forget liao, now you ask me i cannot write out one you are pro haha

[KCisBad]

Originally Posted by chingkuo

haha I studied thos bio before, but forget liao, now you ask me i cannot write out one you are pro haha

Actually i forgot also la, but since it concerns me, have to refresh refresh a bit lor. haha

[BronzeGod]

Originally Posted by peanut123

1. The Wikipedia article clearly states that condoms reduce infections by 85% RELATIVE to unprotected sex. The key word is RELATIVE. When you fuck a HIV positive person, the chances of infection is not 100%. In fact, its rather low. If you have a 1% chance of getting HIV from a infected partner, then reducing that by 85% means you only have a 0.15% of getting infected. The same article (indeed, the same paragraph) also indicates a possible reduction by 80-95% in other studies, which is even better.

Even so, if you actually follow the links to references in the Wiki article, you will note that the authors did indicate that they were not sure if condoms were used correctly in the subjects, and worse, they also indicated that non-latex condoms (which is ineffective against HIV) could be used. As such, the figures could be much worse than if the subjects used only latex condoms ( like we do) and use them consistently and correctly.

2. You other link (ehow.com) simply repeated the same info you did, using the same study. So it is useless.

3. The third link is a religious website, which of course has its own agenda, and is obviously biased. For example, it talks about offending God (seriously? You come to a commercial sex website and post a link about offending God?), and errorneously (in fact, I think it is wilfully misleading ) talks about how small the HIV virus is, and implies that it can pass through rubber. What they conveniently neglect to mention is that the HIV virus is suspended in body fluids, which cannot penetrate rubber. If the fluids cannot get through, then the virus cannot get through. Just like if you are in a car that is caught in a traffic jam. You could walk through the jam, but as long as you are in the car, you are stuck along with the car.

1.Before you posted this, I've already said that: "I haven't done an in-depth study into the statistics and am not a statistician unfortunately, so I may or may not have correctly interpreted the statistics I came across several times on the web."

2. I just posted a few links that I came across with no agenda in mind. So no need to belabour things.

3. You seem very afraid to face the possiblity of contracting AIDS, and wish to crush any suggestion that it's actually very likely that you could catch it

[BronzeGod]

Just to add. Apparently, I've been told by the DSC clinic where WLs get checked, that checks are every three months and not monthly.

You guys might want to know that. So if a WL kena something, she could be working for three months before anything gets discovered. Just something to note.

[KCisBad]

Originally Posted by BronzeGod

Just to add. Apparently, I've been told by the DSC clinic where WLs get checked, that checks are every three months and not monthly.

You guys might want to know that. So if a WL kena something, she could be working for three months before anything gets discovered. Just something to note.

hmm bro i think something not quite accurate here.

For thais at least i can confirm is monthly, mayb PRC mayb diff.


Becos when i want to ON some times, OKT will sometimes tell me oh tmr she got Check up, then when i ask the gal she confirm same thing, then i notice every month the same particular day in the 1st week the girl will go for her check up..
Cos when i ask again the next month happen to be on same day, she told me not to come on that day cos she got check up again.

So i can confirm that they go monthly. Not quaterly.

[fastfashion]

Bros,

Just to clarify, WLs ( thais, PRCs, msians ) checkup is confirmed monthly and not quarterly.

[simsim87]

heard from a wl that they go for monthly std checkups and quarterly hiv checkups. hope tis clears the air

[lauliao]

Legal WLs in sillipore checkup is CONFIRMED at every 28th day

if i am not wrong.

as in thailand(bangkok) they went for per every 3mths..

[launua]

Originally Posted by BronzeGod

Just to add. Apparently, I've been told by the DSC clinic where WLs get checked, that checks are every three months and not monthly.

You guys might want to know that. So if a WL kena something, she could be working for three months before anything gets discovered. Just something to note.

Originally Posted by KCisBad

hmm bro i think something not quite accurate here.

For thais at least i can confirm is monthly, mayb PRC mayb diff.


Becos when i want to ON some times, OKT will sometimes tell me oh tmr she got Check up, then when i ask the gal she confirm same thing, then i notice every month the same particular day in the 1st week the girl will go for her check up..
Cos when i ask again the next month happen to be on same day, she told me not to come on that day cos she got check up again.

So i can confirm that they go monthly. Not quaterly.

Originally Posted by fastfashion

Bros,

Just to clarify, WLs ( thais, PRCs, msians ) checkup is confirmed monthly and not quarterly.

Originally Posted by simsim87

heard from a wl that they go for monthly std checkups and quarterly hiv checkups. hope tis clears the air

Originally Posted by lauliao

Legal WLs in sillipore checkup is CONFIRMED at every 28th day

if i am not wrong.

as in thailand(bangkok) they went for per every 3mths..

Yes confirmed the wl go for monthly checkup.
Bro bronzegod paiseh but your source of info not so accurate.

[BronzeGod]

Originally Posted by launua

Yes confirmed the wl go for monthly checkup.
Bro bronzegod paiseh but your source of info not so accurate.

How are you able to confirm this? You follow the WL for their checkup every month?

I was at the DSC clinic, which does the check-ups, yesterday and spoke directly to a counsellor and asked him if WLs go for monthly check ups.

He said that they do it only every three months. I asked him why that's the case, and why not every month? He said it was no point doing it every month as the window period for STDs is typically three months before you can detect it.

As a staff at DSC clinic which conducts the checks for WLs, why would he lie or tell me information that he isn't sure of?

Unless someone here can produce an email from DSC clinic on how often WLs get checked, how would you know if they get checked monthly? Hearing it from the WL or OKT may not necessarily be a reliable source of info as they're more concerned about your continued patronage as opposed to your sexual health.

[KCisBad]

Originally Posted by BronzeGod

How are you able to confirm this? You follow the WL for their checkup every month?

I was at the DSC clinic, which does the check-ups, yesterday and spoke directly to a counsellor and asked him if WLs go for monthly check ups.

He said that they do it only every three months. I asked him why that's the case, and why not every month? He said it was no point doing it every month as the window period for STDs is typically three months before you can detect it.

As a staff at DSC clinic which conducts the checks for WLs, why would he lie or tell me information that he isn't sure of?

Unless someone here can produce an email from DSC clinic on how often WLs get checked, how would you know if they get checked monthly? Hearing it from the WL or OKT may not necessarily be a reliable source of info as they're more concerned about your continued patronage as opposed to your sexual health.

1.
Bro BG, i understand where u are coming from..
But why would they go out of the way just to lie to us?
I cant possibly think of a reason for them to lie..
When its their off, they tell me its their off.
When its their period they tell me so.
When they sick they tell me also.
When they go out disco and shopping they tell me also.

So i mean i cant think of another reason as to what they are trying to hide and use check up as an excuse not to earn more money.
After all they want to earn money right?
Then turning away customer for ON the night b4 or sometimes the girl take off on the check up day, is all money potential wasted.
And also if the girl take off she has to pay OKT a sum of money.

The only thing i can think of is that the girl want to rest so give this excuse.
But then again, its too accurate already. Same day of each month the same girl will give that "excuse". And anyway, when she want to rest or take off or whatever as mentioned above, she will tell me, so why that special day must lie to me? No logical reason behind.

And [no offence here bro, just trying to investigate and judge our reasons and evidence unbiasly, and im open to correction =) ] for your source i can think of reasons, they might just want to scare u. I mean doctors are humans as well, they can be naughty too. After all this "tip" he gave u is not within his medical advice, so if its wrong info he wont get into trouble as compared to giving u wrong medicine or wrong medical advice.
Doctors can be "oh u like to go to GL alot is it, ok scare u abit see u dare a not" [who knows]

2.
Lots of sources, within my own and other bros seems to match.
Yours is only from 1 source leh..

3.
Though i know the STDs have 3 month window period lets look at the following example.

Month 1 - Test Negative
Month 2 - contracted STD, test negative
Month 3 - Test Negative [1st month after contracting]
Month 4 - Test Negative [2nd month after contracting]
Month 5 - Test Positive [3rd month after contracting]

So does it mean month 4 after taking the check up, he dont need to go for another 3 months?
He may have gotten it 2 months back but have not be showing on the results.


Thus my bros out there, monthly check up is still needed and is still logically.

Bro BG, your doctor who gave u this reason about the 3 months window gap is an idiot. Study until degree and try and bluff until like that..

Think we all normal bros never study medcine can bluff us like a fool..

If that was a medical advice he would have lost his license to operate!

[KCisBad]

Okay as usual Points does not equate to money.
So who cares.

But whoever out there, pls clarify what u want to know.
U zap me and say "what happened?" i think u mistaken the PM button for zapping??

[highlysex]

Thanks for info

my humble 2 points

Originally Posted by KCisBad

1.
Bro BG, i understand where u are coming from..
But why would they go out of the way just to lie to us?
I cant possibly think of a reason for them to lie..
When its their off, they tell me its their off.
When its their period they tell me so.
When they sick they tell me also.
When they go out disco and shopping they tell me also.

So i mean i cant think of another reason as to what they are trying to hide and use check up as an excuse not to earn more money.
After all they want to earn money right?
Then turning away customer for ON the night b4 or sometimes the girl take off on the check up day, is all money potential wasted.
And also if the girl take off she has to pay OKT a sum of money.

The only thing i can think of is that the girl want to rest so give this excuse.
But then again, its too accurate already. Same day of each month the same girl will give that "excuse". And anyway, when she want to rest or take off or whatever as mentioned above, she will tell me, so why that special day must lie to me? No logical reason behind.

And [no offence here bro, just trying to investigate and judge our reasons and evidence unbiasly, and im open to correction =) ] for your source i can think of reasons, they might just want to scare u. I mean doctors are humans as well, they can be naughty too. After all this "tip" he gave u is not within his medical advice, so if its wrong info he wont get into trouble as compared to giving u wrong medicine or wrong medical advice.
Doctors can be "oh u like to go to GL alot is it, ok scare u abit see u dare a not" [who knows]

2.
Lots of sources, within my own and other bros seems to match.
Yours is only from 1 source leh..

3.
Though i know the STDs have 3 month window period lets look at the following example.

Month 1 - Test Negative
Month 2 - contracted STD, test negative
Month 3 - Test Negative [1st month after contracting]
Month 4 - Test Negative [2nd month after contracting]
Month 5 - Test Positive [3rd month after contracting]

So does it mean month 4 after taking the check up, he dont need to go for another 3 months?
He may have gotten it 2 months back but have not be showing on the results.


Thus my bros out there, monthly check up is still needed and is still logically.

Bro BG, your doctor who gave u this reason about the 3 months window gap is an idiot. Study until degree and try and bluff until like that..

Think we all normal bros never study medcine can bluff us like a fool..

If that was a medical advice he would have lost his license to operate!

[launua]

Originally Posted by BronzeGod

How are you able to confirm this? You follow the WL for their checkup every month?

I was at the DSC clinic, which does the check-ups, yesterday and spoke directly to a counsellor and asked him if WLs go for monthly check ups.

He said that they do it only every three months. I asked him why that's the case, and why not every month? He said it was no point doing it every month as the window period for STDs is typically three months before you can detect it.

As a staff at DSC clinic which conducts the checks for WLs, why would he lie or tell me information that he isn't sure of?

Unless someone here can produce an email from DSC clinic on how often WLs get checked, how would you know if they get checked monthly? Hearing it from the WL or OKT may not necessarily be a reliable source of info as they're more concerned about your continued patronage as opposed to your sexual health.

Yes I meet my girl at DSC every month when she go for her checkup

[KCisBad]

Originally Posted by highlysex

Thanks for info

my humble 2 points

Thanks bro.. And ur welcome..

Originally Posted by launua

Yes I meet my girl at DSC every month when she go for her checkup

Wah bro launua, steady la you..
U also at the same time go check up with her everytime?
Or just accompany her..?